In Defense of Speaking Up

This is a rerun of an episode from April 2022. Amy will be back with a new episode next week.

In the spring of 2022, a sermon clip from a prominent pastor was shared widely on social media. In it the pastor had some pointed things to say about those talking about unhealthy churches and Christian leaders. Is speaking up like I’m doing here “dogging” on the church? Jenai Auman, writer and advocate for spiritual abuse survivors joins me for this conversation and later in the episode, author Mary DeMuth shares about her new book The Most Misunderstood Women of the Bible.

Links: Jenai Auman on Instagram

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Mary DeMuth’s book: The Most Misunderstood Women of the Bible: What Their Stories Teach Us About Thriving

Mary DeMuth’s Instagram

Ryan Ramsey tweet thread: Ryan Ramsey on Twitter: “*Long(!)Thread* This is not a new observation but I’m reminded of it in the wake of Bethel Church events in the last week +: Fans/members/devotees of beloved faith communities are highly susceptible to adopting a belief in the ‘inherent goodness’ of that community. 🔽” / Twitter

Entire Sermon Amy and Jenai reference: link

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